Tags: Behind the Scenes, Deathly Hallows, fairy tales, fantasy author, freelance fiction editing, Harry Potter, J. K. Rowling, magic, Marcy Kennedy, Tales of Beedle the Bard • 22 Comments. But all fairy tales should have a moral. I glean morals from thrillers and other fiction, too…though I realize it’s not the main purpose. Three witches and a knight overcome obstacles to try to bathe in the Fountain of Fair Fortune, which is supposed to give good fortune to one person per year. And enjoyable thoughts on fairy tales. Fairy Tale is not the easiest form to write. They all leave happy, and “none of them ever knew or suspected that the Fountain’s waters carried no enchantment at all” (35). Would they eat the porridge or stick to the suggested path? Very concise summaries of these stories. I like HP, but just couldn’t get past the long, boring beginning in book 5. The aggressive first brother wants an unbeatable wand. All stories can teach us if we’re willing to learn. They seem so simple, but writing towards a moral requires precision. Nice post! Wonderful and true. Some of the earliest were written in a Neapolitan dialect by Giambattista Basile in Italy the early seventeenth century: Lo cunto de li cunti overo lo trattenemiento de peccerille (Neapolitan for "The Tale of Tales, or Entertainment for Little Ones"). , Marcy Kennedy Marcy takes a look at this question and you may be surprised at what she has to say. Fairy tales are still rooted in reality, just not necessarily the one we live in right now. But that doesn’t mean they don’t offer lessons. The original purpose of fairy tales was to teach children about life. Marcy Kennedy To me, it felt a lot like she had to write the other stories to fit titles she’d already included in the novels, and they didn’t come together quite right but she was locked into them. That’s the true romance and adventure of a fairytale. http://wp.me/p1QtlR-143, Marcy Kennedy by Marcy Kennedy: Does The Tales of Beedle the Bard meet the criteria of what makes a good fairy tale? Emma Burcart 2011-04-08 12:41:42. People have been murdered and hurt. Btw I have passed you the Sunshine Award. May 11, 2012 @ 15:03:40. May 11, 2012 @ 12:49:48. For those of you who are curious, here are the five tales in the book. Join my mailing list to be the first to know when they're available! May 11, 2012 @ 12:00:08. Nowadays, however, I suspect that many fairy tale-based films are geared more toward entertainment and mass appeal. Assuming Goodness: Why Children Need Great Expectations, Frequently Asked Questions About Spring Garden Waldorf School, Announcing the SGWS Graduate & Family Association, All Are Welcome to the SGWS Online Auction, Helping Quarantined Children Connect with Peers, Fund a Need at the 2020 Auction: ADA Accommodations. And they’re not exempt from needing to teach a lesson to anyone who reads them. I’m always looking for lessons everywhere too I think that’s one of the reasons I found this particular book of tales so frustrating. Part of the fun of Little Red Riding Hood is how she outwits the wolf. The main purpose of Fairy tales was entertainment and time pass; moreover, teach people about moral, lessons regarding for example: greed, hate, envy and jealousy. Many are cautionary tales that children need to listen to and heed the warning. Fairy tales, I’d been schooled to believe, were caches of psychological strength and imaginative verve. I’d agree with your assessment that fairy tales are meant to teach while entertaining, which beings up another question: what’s the difference between a fairy tale and a fable? 1:46 PM ↓ Jump to Comments. When I think of fairy tales, I still always associate them with Disney, childhood, and morales (for children). Fairy tales also do an amazing job of teaching children about class and culture, in eras long ago, but the realities are still relevant in modern times. As G.K. Chesterton once said, “Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. May 12, 2012 @ 23:57:08, My grandma used to tell me fairy tales from “the old country” when I was little. Marcy Kennedy A king wants to be the only one in the kingdom to possess magic, so he gives an order to hunt down all magical folk. Jane Bailey Bain ('LifeWorks') The stories helped illustrate the need to be truthful, kind, patient, and... See full answer below. James...Living, Loving, Laughing, Common Misconceptions about Conflict #2: Conflict = Tension, Building a Mailing List through Reader Magnets. May 11, 2012 @ 19:13:22. Can’t say why exactly. May 11, 2012 @ 14:52:02, I’ve never really gotten into fairy tales. Loooove what he says about Fairytales. Allot people make the mistake to think fairy tales are only for kids, but the fact is its for all ages young and old. May 12, 2012 @ 23:58:34, Jennette Marie Powell Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. May 11, 2012 Because fairy tales are imaginative stories with rich visual and contextual elements that bring forth visceral emotions in children. Fairy tales, of course, have been with us for a long time. I’m a huge Harry Potter fan. And I don’t think the lesson is supposed to be “You shouldn’t have killed all those people.” Or maybe that’s just me? Jacob and Wihelm Grimm Collected stories from Charles Perrault and from relatives/friends. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. They engage children who believe the stories — many of them about children out in the world on their own — are relevant to their lives. Fairy tales allow kids a safe place to explore the idea that life isn’t always easy, that things can go wrong, and people don’t always have your best interests at heart. The purpose of fairy tales has changed since their origin. That magic doesn’t lessen the need for a universal truth. Excellent review!! Yes, it’s very much a “fairy tale” show, but the constant message is that true love is the strongest magic. Some fairy tales are based on legends that incorporated a spiritual belief of the culture in which they originated, and were meant to emulate truth. The one from the movie worked so perfectly because it was such an important part of the books. The Tales of Beedle the Bard aren’t unique in that way. May 11, 2012 @ 15:03:08. The stories and characters transcended the details of the magical world to tell a story of a boy who longed for a family that loved him, who just wanted to fit in, who struggled to figure out the line between right and wrong, and who learned that some things are worth fighting and dying for. Unlike today’s novels, their main purpose is to give a moral in a way the audience will remember. purpose for fairy tales is their entertainment value, and I was also going to talk about Disney, but since Marybeth covered that so efficiently, I will attempt to add on to her points, hopefully adding something new in the process. However, as many believe, fairy tales that have survived from ancient times are today interpreted incorrectly. “Variations of the same stories can be heard all over the world,” Kait wrote, “because they spark something in our imaginations and hearts, such that we’re still telling stories that originated hundreds of years ago.”. A wizard refuses to use his magic to help the local Muggles. When it comes down to fairy tales, it’s all about the way you tell it. Paranormal romance author Kait Nolan (who I interviewed last year on her YA fairy tale reboot Red) pointed out in her excellent “What Makes a Fairy Tale?” post that what sets fairy tales apart is that magic or some kind of enchantment is basically required as part of the story. So, why do Waldorf Educators read fairy tales to our early childhood and primary school students? For adults, fairy tales provide us with a sense of nostalgia and familiarity; for children, they allow them to visit another world and help to liberate their imaginations. (Maybe less magic in fables? These stories shaped us into the adults we are today. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The knight goes in and, made brave, proposes marriage to one of the witches. I believe fairy tales are meant to deliver a lesson. I’m not a Harry Potter fan, so I probably wouldn’t read the book in the first place, but I totally agree with you about fairy tales. "Raven Girl" by Audrey Niffeneg… May 12, 2012 @ 23:55:58. purpose for fairy tales is their entertainment value, and I was also going to talk about Disney, but since Marybeth covered that so efficiently, I will attempt to add on to her points, hopefully adding something new in the process. That strikes home with a lot of people, especially in a world where they can be faced with an awful lot of meanness each day. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed.”. Maybe they should have taken more time in developing better tales to accompany the one from the movie. They exist to teach a clear lesson. I think you’ve just hit on why Once Upon A Time is so popular. As for the moral for us non-magic folk…“don’t lie” is the best I can come up with, but it doesn’t entirely fit the story. Like all stories, fairy tales are meant to entertain, but that’s secondary. People can’t actually perform magic, so you can’t expect a moral for us. It’s because Rowling is such a master at writing for a universal audience that I was so surprised she didn’t nail these as well. In every reaction which the child has for distress or humor in the tale, he deposits another layer of vicarious experience which sets his character more firmly in the mould of right or wrong attitude. Theories On The Origin Of Fairy Tales. Call me crazy, but I don’t think there is a whole lot of wit present when there is a 12-gauge shotgun involved. His cooking pot starts to hop, sprout warts, cry, and otherwise show the wizard that the people he refused were suffering. In this fairy tale, as she calls it, a family consisting of a mother, father, and young son is fearful of the underclass in their world. Debra Kristi Fairy Tales are stories that represent an important part of our childhood: they helped us develop important life skills. R.H.Suleyman “If you want your children to be intelligent, read them fairy tales. The main purpose of Fairy tales was entertainment and time pass; moreover, teach people about moral, lessons regarding for example: greed, hate, envy and jealousy. I’m not sure whether I should thank you or shake my fist right before the pile crushes me to death , August McLaughlin I am even less interested now. My favorite book is THE WONDER CLOCK by Howard Pyle. It’s just the fractured ones are funny. A wizard thinks people act foolishly when they fall in love, so he takes his heart from his chest and locks it away. Fairytales weren’t written to give you a distorted view of romance; they were written to instill hope in the hearts of those who want to give up on living. Part of what made the Harry Potter series popular was we could still relate to the stories even though we couldn’t perform magic and would never need to fight a dark wizard. I also like the part about good beating evil and true love being the strongest magic. I don’t know.) What an excellent review, Marcy. », MASH-UP: Fairy Tales, Body Image, and More « Jessica O'Neal, Kristy K. Fairy tales are much harder to write than they seem. By the turn of the 17th century France used fairy tales to educate children and adults; whereas, Germany kept the tales for adults to wish or vent against the social and government systems. The best you can hope for is to postpone it until you are old and live a full life. As fans from Angela Carter to Neil Gaiman confirm, they … Even contemporary fairy tales have been written for the purpose of inspiration in the music world. May 11, 2012 @ 13:31:10. you have touched up on a great subject, i have grown up with fairy tales and people don’t realize now days how important they are and it seems video games and TV shows are taking over, and parents are not telling them as much as they use to be told. I can hear the argument now. Okay, you might say, but The Tales of Beedle the Bard are just supposed to be something fun and extra for people who loved the Harry Potter books. The early written fairy tales text of the literary type were intended for adults. The wise third brother wants to remain unseen by Death. Marcy Kennedy Marcy Kennedy This is why we decided to define the Educating Purpose of the Brothers Grimm’s Fairy Tales and Their Modern Representations in our DH project. The purpose of fairy tales When I think of fairy tales, I think of these really awful stories that almost always have an adult who wants to hurt the child in some way. Unlike today’s novels, their main purpose is to give a moral in a way the audience will remember. They’re my favorite genre. Do you think I’m wrong about the purpose of a fairy tale? I love the short, sharp beauty of intangible teachings through physical stories. Might they talk to strangers or eat from a candy house when they know better? by writing new one’s the first book i have published on March 30th 2012 is called ‘Tales Within’ and contains 20 fairy tales and are all trapped in snow globes to be told though the generations, the next one i hope to publish next year is called ‘Tales Within the magic continues’ which will contain 30 fairy tales and these two books are building up, to make way for 3 novels to come. You don’t need to be a witch or wizard to relate. you can purchase my book of amazon i would love to hear what you all think thank you, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tales-within-R-H-Suleyman/dp/1781320020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336757314&sr=8-1, Marcy Kennedy Well, except for Fractured Fairy Tales when I was a kid…which was the only part of Bullwinkle I could stand (my brothers liked the show). May 12, 2012 @ 23:58:03. The Muggle moral could perhaps be that, if we don’t open ourselves up to love, we shrivel and become savage? Left in isolation, it grows withered, dark, and hairy like a beast. Wanted to preserve oral story telling "Nursery and Household Tales" 1812 1800 Charles Perrault Cinderella and Bluebeard Grimm Fairy Tales original dark elements Warn children of the dangers If you didn’t like the Harry Potter books, « Four Little-Known Factors that Could Destroy Your Blog’s Chances of Success, Do We Need to Be A Little More Old-Fashioned? It sounds like a few of those flounder. Great post! From an educational perspective, young future readers are learning the basics of story in a thematic and consistent way — setting, characters, and plot (rising action, climax, and resolution) occur predictably and help children orient their minds around the elements of writing. Kait actually addresses that in the article I linked to as well. James...Living, Loving, Laughing What’s the point of fairy tales? by Marcy Kennedy • They are supposed to teach a lesson. You gave an excellent review! Another benefit of fairy tales for children is that they learn it is possible to overcome sometimes intimidating or “bigger” obstacles. Waldorf Early Childhood: How is it Different? Rapunzel (/ r ə ˈ p ʌ n z əl /; German: [ʁaˈpʊnt͡səl]) is a German fairy tale recorded by the Brothers Grimm and first published in 1812 as part of Children's and Household Tales (KHM 12). The best I’ve read about fairy tales is Ethics in Elfland by GK Chesterton in his book ORTHODOXY. May 11, 2012 @ 14:35:42. The classic story is that the underdog faces challenges and then in the end, they triumph over the large evil in their life. Children subconsciously recall their messages as they grow older, and are forced to cope with real injustices and contradictions in their lives. the purpose of fairy tales For our final discussion forum, let’s discuss Acocella’s article, “Once Upon A Time: The Lure of the Fairy Tale,” which tries to address the “big” question of the purpose or role of fairy tales in our lives. They felt muddled to me, almost like she wasn’t sure what she was trying to say with them. The moral for magic folk and Muggles alike is that death is inevitable. Death gives them each a wish. The cover… Many cultures share these stories as well because they represent common narratives and issues all of us face regardless of where we reside in the world. May 18, 2012 @ 10:07:10. The similar repetition of these helps to ingrain the lessons and principles of these stories into the child’s mind. They exist to teach a clear lesson. The morals from those still stick with me now, better than is she’d given me a lecture instead , R.H.Suleyman Myth and Magic: Though most fairy tales do not have clear origins, they do have a common theme that is conveyed by their collective name. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! This is the best of the fairy tales in the book, and the only one that I think works perfectly. I think being drawn to stories is part of human nature. Three brothers cheat death by building a magical bridge over a dangerous river. The lessons in Harry Potter, while secondary to an entertaining story, are what made it so loved by people who wouldn’t otherwise read a fantasy. Fairy tales have inspired music, namely opera, such as the French Opéra féerie and the German Märchenoper. Before I tell you what I thought of the book, I think we have to answer one essential question. May 11, 2012 @ 13:43:26, […] What’s the Point of Fairy Tales? The Amazon Heir series co-written with Lisa Hall-Wilson, Galactic Grunts Online series co-written with Chris Saylor, Three Wishes Scottish historical fantasy series. Like all stories, fairy tales are meant to entertain, but that’s secondary. Behind the Scenes • What’s the point of fairy tales? . I grew up listening to fairy tales, so I agree they are a very important part of childhood. While the fairy tales have no immediate purpose other than to amuse, they leave a substantial by-product which has a moral significance. (Don’t believe me? The meaning of Russian fairy tales was to teach a person from an early age to distinguish where the good is and where the bad is, what can be called evil and what should be no place in our life. May 12, 2012 @ 07:50:53. just to answer your question, difference between fairy tales and fables is, that fables concentrate on nature to tell a story, but fairy tales use a wider range of story telling, but apart from that they are quite similar. May 11, 2012 @ 09:07:00. Unlike today’s novels, their main purpose is to give a moral in a way the audience will remember. Well done. Fun post! If you didn’t like the Harry Potter books, The Tales of Beedle the Bard aren’t worth reading. May 15, 2012 @ 12:38:29. Prince Charming aside, fairytales are all about chasing your dreams and finding the courage to step into the unknown. The third brother meets Death as an equal once he’s old. Magic, enchantments, and witches show up all the time in fairy tales. They get through the obstacles based on luck and, in the end, none of the three witches need to go in because their problems are already solved. If you want them to be more intelligent, read them more fairy tales.”  ― Albert Einstein. Children already know that dragons exist. #Fairytale #audioversity ~~~ Fairy tale ~~~ Title: What is Fairy tale? It’s what draws us to the news, as well as to share with loves ones. If you’ve read The Tales of Beedle the Bard, am I being too harsh? I always loved fairy tales when I was a kid. I guess we could really stretch this to the Muggle moral of “we should help those less fortunate than ourselves.”. And, of course, understanding these elements will not only help children write, but also read. I am a big Harry Potter fan but was never that interested in reading Tales of Beedle the Bard. MASH-UP: Fairy Tales, Body Image, and More « Jessica O'Neal So I might like these. 2011-04-08 12:41:42. I’ve only read the first Harry Potter book, so I’m not familiar with this. The Purpose Of Fairy Tales In Briar Rose 854 Words | 4 Pages. Before I tell you what I thought of the book, I think we have to answer one essential question. May 11, 2012 @ 12:08:42. The wizard moral is that even magic can’t make you invulnerable to every physical, mental, and emotional pain. They are serious considerations about how to child will choose to be and act in the wider world. On the Purpose of Fairy Tales “Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Originally, they were morbid tales told by men to other men. The name "fairy tale" is often applied across cultures. Early oral fairy tales and folklore were for adults as much as for children. An old witch tricks him into rescinding this order. French examples include Gretry's Zémire et Azor, and Auber's Le cheval de bronze, German operas are Mozart's Die Zauberflöte, Humperdinck's Hänsel und Gretel, Siegfried Wagner's An allem ist Hütchen schuld!, which is based on many fairy tales, and Carl Orff's Die Kluge. It’s also what makes them re-readable. Kristy K. David Hill Burns Not everyone likes fiction, but everyone likes a good story. Jesus liked to tell those, too. Fairy tales are definitely supposed to teach a lesson. I’m a huge Harry Potter fan. Fairy tales, like myths and legends, can be difficult to describe, but they often (traditionally) contain clear narratives that identify good and evil. Marcy Kennedy To imagine these tales is to think abstractly and transform words into personal, internal meaning. When he finally takes it out again, he ends up killing a maiden and cutting out her heart because he wants to replace his with hers. children and adults. If you’ve read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows or watched the movie, then you’ll recognize The Tales of Beedle the Bard as the book of wizarding-world fairy tales containing “The Tale of the Three Brothers” (who owned the Deathly Hallows). I ate Bertie Bott’s Every Flavor Beans.). May 18, 2012 @ 10:06:46. Fairy Tales are written to teach little kids important lifelong lessons in a fun way. I agree that fairy tales were created to illustrate lessons. Myths, folk tales, legends (and the archetypal figures who appear in them) provide us with the material from which we compose our own life stories. Or if not that, then it's the beautiful girl is meek therefore she gets the prince. 0 0 1. Grimm and Andersen have kept many, many children entertained with their tales of winged fairies. I’m just saying. Would they eat the porridge or stick to the suggested path? Honestly, while this is a cute story, I can’t figure out what the moral for magical children would be. Marcy Kennedy After all, as Hans Christian Andersen once said, “Life itself is the most wonderful fairy tale.”, development of the imagination is a key piece in helping to foster reading comprehension. Yes, but The Tales of Beedle the Bard are supposed to be fairy tales for wizarding children, not Muggles. And for young children bedtime stories!:0. (Don’t believe me? May 11, 2012 @ 14:59:00, You’ve just managed to add two new books to my TBR list. In this, the stories in The Tales of Beedle the Bard only partially succeed. Fairy tales are supposed to teach those critical thinking skills to children in a way that they can understand and absorb. I thought they were made to shut kids up and make them go to sleep […]. Fairy tales, gripping, magical and inspiring, are master narratives. Last weekend I sat down with a long-awaited treat—The Tales of Beedle the Bard. When I think of fairy tales, I still always associate them with Disney, childhood, and morales (for children). The first and second brothers end up dead because of their wishes. "Fractured Fairy Tales" are common fairy tales that have been reinvented with a satirical or sardonic twist upon the common elements found in the original fairy tale . In Waldorf Education, development of the imagination is a key piece in helping to foster reading comprehension. And writing for a universal audience (at which Rowling is an unsurpassed master)requires an ability to find a universally common language and appeal. We all struggle to overcome poverty, injustice, family upheaval and our own personal dragons. Bad things happen to good people in fairy tales, and then, in many cases those good people (often children) find their way in and around these difficulties. They engage children who believe the stories — many of them about children out in the world on their own — are relevant to their lives. The novel Briar Rose idolizes three characters Becca, Gemma, Josef Potocki. These are not silly questions. They became more kid's fairy tales in the 19th and 20th centuries. Fairy tale, wonder tale involving marvellous elements and occurrences, though not necessarily about fairies.The term embraces such popular folktales (Märchen, q.v.) The wizard moral seems to be that wizards should help Muggles. Like all stories, fairy tales are meant to entertain, but that’s secondary. In this way, fairy tales model behavior for children like problem solving or emotional intelligence. Marcy Kennedy The arrogant second brother wants a stone that will bring the dead back to life. I have recently publish my own book of fairy tales, cause i aim to make them as popular as they once where. Fairy tales were born out of oral folklore and many of them are also fables (told with the purpose of teaching a moral lesson). The moral would likely be that we make our own good fortune in life, but the fact that a lot of things in the story happen due to luck rather than skill or hard work actually dilutes this moral. Because fairy tales are imaginative stories with rich visual and contextual elements that bring forth visceral emotions in children. Eventually he gives in, and once he helps, the pot returns to normal. And, made brave, proposes marriage to one of the book, I ’ ve only read tales! 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